ok, So just back from the JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL demo in central London.
I want my life back. I want to be able to listen to music and not cry. I want to feel the freedom of going to a concert and screaming and dancing till I loose my voice and my muscles ache. I want to go to forums and have fun and feel like I have something in common with the active posters. I want to recieve a text message that send my heart spinning cos I know Im going to see Michael in a few hours. I want this emptyness and blackness in my soul to go away. I want to be happy and free.
This was originally posted on MAX JAX and MJJC in July 2008. It caused huge controversay on the forums, as people had built up this huge expectation of something which was never to happen. On MJJC, the thread was closed as there was soo much negativity.
heres something thats been on my mind for awhile. We all know that Michael has been in the studio working on new songs, but what if the new music is not for a classic complete new album???? Has anyone one considered the idea that maybe that part of Michael’s career is over and now his career is moving in a different direction. ok let me clarify… from J5 days to Invicible, Michael has worked hard at his career, reaching the top and becoming the biggest selling artist of all time. His career has been the inspiration for many of todays artists and thoughout his career he has been instramental in shaping the music industry as we know it. Now that he has reached the top, become the worlds biggest selling artist and gained respect and acceptance from the music industy, he realises he dosnt have to prove himself any more and is now using his experience and talent to help todays top artists. When he allowed Billy Bush to interview him in Ireland we saw that Will.I.am was working with Michael. Then we get THRILLER25 which Will features on. We hear rumours of Michael working with Akon and we get HOLD MY HAND which is confirmed to be on Akon’s new album. All Im saying is, maybe now, Michael is not working on a solo album for himself , but working on new music for other peoples albums. In October 2007, when he sent us the letter about the L’Uomo Vogue photo shoot he said “Soon I will be sharing exciting and surprising news with you from my other efforts”. Most fans took this to mean a new album, but what if he ment he was working on music with other artists for THEIR album not his?? Its not the first time he has collaberated with other artists. Since Thriller ara he has worked with many different artists. Back in then, when he was the young top artist heading for the peak of his career, he recorded with people like Paul MacCartney and Diana Ross, artists who had reached the top of their careers. Maybe now, Michael is doing the same thing, passing on his talent and experience to the new generation. what are your thoughts?
ok, this has been bugging me for a while now. You know all the stuff with the dancers, them going on tv and doing the stuff with fans for the launch of TII on dvd in America? Well I wondering, why has Travis never done fan stuff before? And actully would people have even recognised the name Travis Payne before the release of TII movie?
Its not like there there hasnt been fan events in the years since HISTORY tour. In fact other dancers who have worked with Michael, dancers not involved with TII have in the past attended fan events, and done dance masterclasses in London.
Am I just being cynical wondering about this? I know Travis has worked with Michael before, and that he respects Michael, but it just seems to me to be a little like he is using this as promotion for himself, and that now the general public know that he worked with Michael, not just the MJ fans and people in the dance industry.
Things I dont do since June 25
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My Michael dreams have stopped
I dont listen to Michaels music or watch footage of him
I dont read as much as I used to
I have stopped buying magazines and newspapers
I havent turned on my mp3 player since June 24/25
Things I have started doing since June 25
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my film and book choices have become darker, I used to read alot of chicklit / light hearted books, now Im reading more darker books, dealing with death and horror. The same with my movie choices. I used to watch alot of dance and muisical fims, now Im watching more darker films.
The same with my music choices. I used to listen to mainly RNB / pop music, now Im listening to other genres, mainly Irish music and music genres I never used to listen to.
I have started drinking alcohol more often. I used never be a big drinker, in fact for most of my adult life I would never drink alcohol when I went out. Now though,Im drinking alot more. Now when I go out I have more than 1 drink, and when Im at home, and friends come over, I sometimes get quiet tipsy. Dont worry, I dont drink all the time, just every so often.
Im not who you want me to be, Im not like you.You think you know me but you dont. Eveything is new to you, but what you find exciting and new is what my life used to be. The meet ups, the events, demos, fighting for Michael, its not me anymore. You think your ideas are new, wake up, they are not. Thats what we have been doing year after year. You think its exciting, going to LA, all fans staying in the same hotel… helloo, where the fuck were you when we did all that back in 2004/2005 in Santa Maria?? You want to organise protests outside the court, um… thats what we did in Santa Maria, when you couldnt be bothered.You look down on the TINI fans, yets those same fans were the ones who actaully cared enough about Michael to to go and see him when he needed support, unlike you, who only NOW when its too late, have all these ideas and plans.
I cant do this anymore, I cant keep advising you, guiding you, sharing experiences. Im fed up teaching you about the fan community, Im fed up explaining that NO ONE CARES about mj.com. You just dont get it so whats the point. Its going round in circles and Im soo tired of it all.
Dont you get it?? Im on the edge of a cliff, trying soo hard not to tip over the edge. All the new fans, the excitment about finding “new songs” which I have been listening to for years, the “new footage” on youtube,events etc which I have been at, I cant deal with anymore.
while I dont believe Michael was Jeasus, I believe that Michael was a very extra ordinary person, someone who didnt realise how special he was. A cople of months ago, me and a friend were talking about this and we started doing some research online.
We found something called EARTH ANGELS
Back in J5 days and before, people descibed Michael as “an old soul in a childs body”
His lyrics often contain refernce to something in his life which hadnt happened yet
The number 7 is constant in his life
and soo much more which I cant think of now
Earth Angels http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art45545.asp
Do you ever feel like the Mother Ship dropped you off on a foriegn planet, waiting earnestly for their return? Have you had a sense early in life about a mission you had been sent here to do? If so, then you just might be an Earth Angel!
In the name of humanity and compelled to help and heal at virtually any age and cost, for the Earth Angel, the optimistic drive of love and hope may begin showing signs of unbalance. As self-denial transforms into clouded personal affairs, granting everyone else’s wish and command, the scales can quite easily begin to tip.
Earth Angels have a unique essence about them. In their purest form they are intuitive, empathic, sensitive and giving often to a fault, with the very concept of tragedy nipping at their heals. They may be nurses, holistic healers, counselors or something similar by nature while also providing this very role in close relationships.
Earth Angels will push themselves, giving their very best often to the point of self-infliction and emotional dismay. They will be compelled, without quite understanding why, to seek out and draw to them friendships and love relations in need of counsel and healing. The struggle then becomes when to say, “enough.” Conflicting emotions begin surfacing as to whether or not they should stay, as the Earth Angel is pained by feeling their task is incomplete. They will run through cycles of guilt, feeling they should not put themselves first and will mistakenly feel there is a reason for running across a particular person’s path in need and continue to give again and again to the same people who have hurt them in the past without a healthy and assertive “No.”
Without understanding why, very often these individuals will find cycles running virtually back to back carrying with them similar issues different people. If not careful the potential exists of a tired or broken spirit believing they were meant to be punished in some way by God or the Universe. What they may not understand is this type of exertion may jeopardize exactly the work they had come here to provide.
After leaving the safety of the angelic realm providing their well-meaning service to the Earth plane at such a critical time, it had been set into motion the familiarity of self-sacrifice. Because of the dimensional change, balance in this spiritual contract is often a distant memory forgetting that in order to help the many, it is not always case-wise to sacrifice a piece of the soul for the one or the few.
Angry incarnates or those who have returned to enjoy the material facets of this Earthly plane can be especially draining on the Angel, causing many in regards to comfort, tendencies to over eat, drink, smoke or other secret habits in soothing their pain. They may be so panic stricken that the very idea of meditation or prayer seems like an inconvenience in the amount of time it may take away from others around them.
To the outside world they may appear weak, insignificant or someone that can be taken advantage of. Though this is a risk an Earth Angel willingly takes when accepting their mission, rest assured this is an illusion, but often found to be one of the more difficult parts of the Earth Angel’s job. It may also be difficult or embarassing for an Earth Angel to accept money or help for their services. Again, it will benefit the Angel greatly to try to view the act of receiving graciously as a balancing agent should ever there exist a desire to quit a job they are unhappy with.
Just as easily as vindictiveness and selfishness can knock at the Earth Angel’s door, there are Others who have come to this Earthly plane precisely in the effort to help guide the Angel reminding them of their mission. They will lend support but with a firmer hand of direction. They will appear wise beyond their years, not of this world, stronger, more confident, less willing to accept excuses for certain behaviors and privy in their ability to see through people who may bring harm while pointing out a lesson in procrastination and delivery, allowing the Earth Angel to move on.
The Earth Angel may find comfort near large bodies of water. They will benefit from treating themselves to sea salt baths, aromatherapy, essential oils, and plants both in gardening and around the home. Believing the universe provides and allows for this type of support,will be key and something only the Earth Angel will be able to do. They will then go on to help other Earth Angels, supporting them and their mission as well.
On a final note, if you happen to run into one of these Earth Angels or be one, remember there is never a victim. Whether you take part for selfish means or walk away it is purely, in some manner, of mutual consent. Remembering the same consent exists to graciously take and recieve offers with it a retro grace a thousand fold.
Originally posted on the forum at http://www.michaeljackson.com
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 – 14:24
List of Rare and Unreleased Michael songs
Rare songs
Mind Is The Magic
recorded early 90’s for Sigfried and Roys Vegas show, THE SECRET GARDEN, released on the soundtrack album of the show
The Man
duet with Paul MacCartney, released on Paul’s album, Pipes of Peace
Its Not Worth It
Michael sings backing vocals for Brandy, song released on Brandy’s album FULL MOON
I Just Cant Stop Loving You (Todo Mi Amour Eres Tu )in South American Spanish
originally released only in South America, released world wide on the BAD album special ediion in 2001
FLY AWAY
also on BAD special edition
on OFF THE WALL special edition
Don’t Stop ‘Till You Get Enough (Original Demo From 1978)
Workin’ Day And Night (Original Demo From 1978)
On THRILLER special edition
Someone in the Dark
Billie Jean (Home Demo from 1981)
Voice-Over Session from “Thriller with Vincent Price
Carousel
anyone intersted in rare songs should get THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION. A boxset of 4 cds and a dvd of Bucherest Dangerous concert. It was released in November 2003
songs in The Ultimate Collection
Shake a Body” [Early Demo]
Sunset Driver” [Demo]
“P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)” [Demo]
“Someone in the Dark”
“State of Shock” (w/Mick Jagger)
“Scared of the Moon” [Demo]
“We Are the World” [Demo]
“We Are Here to Change the World” (from Captain EO)
Cheater” [Demo]
“Dangerous” [Early Version]
“Monkey Business”
“Someone Put Your Hand Out”
“On the Line” (from Get on the Bus)
“Fall Again” [Demo]
“In the Back”
“Beautiful Girl” [Demo]
“The Way You Love Me”
“We’ve Had Enough”
Unreleased Songs
Elizabeth I Love You
never recorded, only performed once, at a tribute for Elizabeth Taylor
You Were There
never recorded, only performed once, at a tribute for Sammy Davis Junior
Hold My Hand , with Akon
leaked summer 2008, search youtube
XSCAPE
leaked early 2003, search youtube
Gangsta /No Friend of Mine
put together by Tempermental from recordings they did with Michael, put on their myspace page late 2006
We Be Ballin
Song originally co-written and produced by Rick ‘Dutch’ Cousin in 1997 and recorded by Ice Cube as “We Be Clubbin”, for the movie “The Player’s Club”.
Remixed later the same year by Cousin, with added vocals by Michael (who sang the chorus) and Shaquille O’Neal, and re-titled “We Be Ballin”.
The song was to be released on an NBA compilation album, set to be released that year, and was going to be featured in the infamous NBA ‘I Love This Game’ themed commercials.
The NBA season was cut in half that year, due to the player initiated strike against the league, and the entire project seemed to just disappear…
Lisa It Your Birthday
origianl recording by Michael, not the version sung by someone else which appears on the album SIMPSONS SINGS THE BLUES, and on the episode Stark Raving Dad
What More Can I give
Recorded by Michael and many other artists, as a charity single similar to WE ARE THE WORLD, for the people of New York and those affected by September 11. Performed at the charity event in Washington DC in November 2001 but blocked from release by SONY, due to their disagreements at the time with Michael.
SHOUT
from the INVINCIBLE recording sessions, didnt make the final tracklist, relesed in October 2001 as a bonus song on the CRY cd single
Whatzupwitu
duet with Eddie Murphy, released on Eddie Murphy’s album Love’s Alright in 1993
Got The Hots
released on the Japanese edition of Thriller 25
For All Time
released on Thriller 25
Love Never Felt So Good
written by Michael with Paul Anka and Kathy Wakefield.
It was recorded by Johnny Manthis for his 1984 album, A Special Part Of Me.
demo version by Michael leaked on the internet in 2006 – no official release. (thanks to John C)
‘There Must Be More to Life Than This”
“Get It” Duet w Stevie Wonder. It was on Stevie’s album “Characters.” (thanks to John C)
“Somebody’s Watching Me”
heard on the “Money With Eyes” Geico commercials: MJ participated in production, may have co-wrote it, and sang the backing vocals for “Rockwell” in the early 80s, who is Barry Gordy’s son. I used to watch the video in the 80s. You can find it now on You Tube. (thanks to poetcorner)
HOT STREET” unreleased demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6ddzRE1KN0&feature=related
Also there are two songs which are known to exsist but NOONE other than the people who have them have ever heard them.
1. I HAVE THIS DREAM
another charity song, recorded in october 2005 in London, for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Blocked from release due to disagreements between Michael, Sony and 2 Seas Record label. The song is now property of the Shiek of Behrain, who set up 2 Seas Record label with Michael. There was a court case in November 2008, in London between Michael and the Sheik, where the song was going to used as evidence but the case was settled out of court and the song was never used as evidence.
2 MAN IN BLACK
Not to be confused with the Will Smith film, MAN IN BLACK has only ever been heard by 10 people. It was recorded and 10 copies were made. These cd’s were given to 10 SONY exutitives on a flight to Neverland in the early 90’s. They were going to Neverland to hear songs which would later become Dangerous album, and the special cd’s were given to them as a preview of the type of songs on Dangerous.These cd’s have disapeared and no one else has ever heard this song.
She Got It
Serious Effect
Bumper Snippet Kid
those were supposed to be on the bonus cd for Dangerous along with some other one’s(one is Bottle Of Smoke..but I can’t find it)
Nite Line
Hot Street
Groove Of Midnight
those 3 are from the Thriller sessions
Bumper Snippet(which is from Bad sessions)
If You Don’t Get It(i know nothing about this one)
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 – 14:24List of Rare and Unreleased Michael songs
Mind Is The Magic
recorded early 90’s for Sigfried and Roys Vegas show, THE SECRET GARDEN, released on the soundtrack album of the show
The Man
duet with Paul MacCartney, released on Paul’s album, Pipes of Peace
Its Not Worth It
Michael sings backing vocals for Brandy, song released on Brandy’s album FULL MOON
I Just Cant Stop Loving You (Todo Mi Amour Eres Tu )in South American Spanish
originally released only in South America, released world wide on the BAD album special ediion in 2001
FLY AWAY
also on BAD special edition
on OFF THE WALL special edition
Don’t Stop ‘Till You Get Enough (Original Demo From 1978)
Workin’ Day And Night (Original Demo From 1978)
On THRILLER special edition
Someone in the Dark
Billie Jean (Home Demo from 1981)
Voice-Over Session from “Thriller with Vincent Price
Carousel
anyone intersted in rare songs should get THE ULTIMATE COLLECTION. A boxset of 4 cds and a dvd of Bucherest Dangerous concert. It was released in November 2003
songs in The Ultimate Collection
Shake a Body” [Early Demo]
Sunset Driver” [Demo]
“P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)” [Demo]
“Someone in the Dark”
“State of Shock” (w/Mick Jagger)
“Scared of the Moon” [Demo]
“We Are the World” [Demo]
“We Are Here to Change the World” (from Captain EO)
Cheater” [Demo]
“Dangerous” [Early Version]
“Monkey Business”
“Someone Put Your Hand Out”
“On the Line” (from Get on the Bus)
“Fall Again” [Demo]
“In the Back”
“Beautiful Girl” [Demo]
“The Way You Love Me”
“We’ve Had Enough”
Unreleased Songs
Elizabeth I Love You
never recorded, only performed once, at a tribute for Elizabeth Taylor
You Were There
never recorded, only performed once, at a tribute for Sammy Davis Junior
Hold My Hand , with Akon
leaked summer 2008, search youtube
XSCAPE
leaked early 2003, search youtube
Gangsta /No Friend of Mine
put together by Tempermental from recordings they did with Michael, put on their myspace page late 2006
We Be Ballin
Song originally co-written and produced by Rick ‘Dutch’ Cousin in 1997 and recorded by Ice Cube as “We Be Clubbin”, for the movie “The Player’s Club”.
Remixed later the same year by Cousin, with added vocals by Michael (who sang the chorus) and Shaquille O’Neal, and re-titled “We Be Ballin”.
The song was to be released on an NBA compilation album, set to be released that year, and was going to be featured in the infamous NBA ‘I Love This Game’ themed commercials.
The NBA season was cut in half that year, due to the player initiated strike against the league, and the entire project seemed to just disappear…
Lisa It Your Birthday
origianl recording by Michael, not the version sung by someone else which appears on the album SIMPSONS SINGS THE BLUES, and on the episode Stark Raving Dad
What More Can I give
Recorded by Michael and many other artists, as a charity single similar to WE ARE THE WORLD, for the people of New York and those affected by September 11. Performed at the charity event in Washington DC in November 2001 but blocked from release by SONY, due to their disagreements at the time with Michael.
SHOUT
from the INVINCIBLE recording sessions, didnt make the final tracklist, relesed in October 2001 as a bonus song on the CRY cd single
Whatzupwitu
duet with Eddie Murphy, released on Eddie Murphy’s album Love’s Alright in 1993
Got The Hots
released on the Japanese edition of Thriller 25
For All Time
released on Thriller 25
Love Never Felt So Good
written by Michael with Paul Anka and Kathy Wakefield.
It was recorded by Johnny Manthis for his 1984 album, A Special Part Of Me.
demo version by Michael leaked on the internet in 2006 – no official release. (thanks to John C)
‘There Must Be More to Life Than This”
“Get It” Duet w Stevie Wonder. It was on Stevie’s album “Characters.” (thanks to John C)
“Somebody’s Watching Me”
heard on the “Money With Eyes” Geico commercials: MJ participated in production, may have co-wrote it, and sang the backing vocals for “Rockwell” in the early 80s, who is Barry Gordy’s son. I used to watch the video in the 80s. You can find it now on You Tube. (thanks to poetcorner)
HOT STREET” unreleased demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6ddzRE1KN0&feature=related
Also there are two songs which are known to exsist but NOONE other than the people who have them have ever heard them.
1. I HAVE THIS DREAM
another charity song, recorded in october 2005 in London, for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Blocked from release due to disagreements between Michael, Sony and 2 Seas Record label. The song is now property of the Shiek of Behrain, who set up 2 Seas Record label with Michael. There was a court case in November 2008, in London between Michael and the Sheik, where the song was going to used as evidence but the case was settled out of court and the song was never used as evidence.
2 MAN IN BLACK
Not to be confused with the Will Smith film, MAN IN BLACK has only ever been heard by 10 people. It was recorded and 10 copies were made. These cd’s were given to 10 SONY exutitives on a flight to Neverland in the early 90’s. They were going to Neverland to hear songs which would later become Dangerous album, and the special cd’s were given to them as a preview of the type of songs on Dangerous.These cd’s have disapeared and no one else has ever heard this song.
She Got It
Serious Effect
Bumper Snippet Kid
those were supposed to be on the bonus cd for Dangerous along with some other one’s(one is Bottle Of Smoke..but I can’t find it)
Nite Line
Hot Street
Groove Of Midnight
those 3 are from the Thriller sessions
Bumper Snippet(which is from Bad sessions)
If You Don’t Get It(i know nothing about this one)
Originally posted on the forum at http://www.michaeljackson.com
Sunday, December 27, 2009 – 19:42
A short history of the fan communities
Before the interenet, the world of the MJ fan was very limited. Those who could travelled to see Michael in person and met other fans along the way. For many this wasnt an option and the fan community was very isolated and spread out.
Then a teenageer in the UK started a fanzine called OFF THE WALL, which he eventually managed to get published and sold in shops. This was spotted by a woman called Gloria Haydock and together with the teenager, who by now was in his 20’s they created a fanclub called MICHAEL JACKSON NEWS INTERNATIONAL (MJNI).
This fan club grew and grew, They published a magazine called KING 4 times a year and organised fan events etc. In other countries in Europe, the same thing was happening, fans coming together to create unofficial fanclubs and offering an extremly professional service. The biggest of these were PLANET JACKSON in France and ANGEL in Germany.
The most succesful times for these fan clubs were from Dangerous era to History era. Then with the internet, the fan communites really were able to connect on a global scale.
For the first time, fans all over the world could talk in real time. MJIFC chatroom became THE place to hang out, in fact many of us who first chatted on MJIFC over 10 years ago are still very active members of the fan communities.
The traditional fan clubs created websites and forums for their members, sending out enews bullitions to members emails etc.
During 2004/2005 the online fan communites and in particular MJJFORUM and KOPBOARD became the centre of the globall fan support for Michael. Members of these forums became amautaur experst in the American Justice System. Members of the forums would be in court every day, taking notes. These notes were then put on the forums, thereby giving the fans accurate and reliable info about what was happening in the court every day. In addition to this court transcripts were also were obtained by members and posted on the forums.
Over the years, most of the unofficial fan sites have had personal contact with members of Michaels staff and MJJPRODUCTIONS. When fan clubs and sites held events, Michael was always contacted. Most of the time he would send a fax message and send over some merchandise as competition prizes. He would also request that the events would be videoed and sent to him. On a few occasions, he also attended fan events. The events he attended were
Adrian Grants MJ DAY 10 March 2001
MJNI’s Killer Thriller party June 2002
45th Birthday Party LA 2003
This site, www.michaeljackson.com has never been part of the main fan community. For many years, SONY had only a basic layout with links to Michaels videos. The forum as you see now has only been part of this site since March 2009