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The Forum on mj.com was created in March 2009 after the London Press Conference. It was created as a platform for fans to have somewhere to talk about the upcoming concerts in London. It quickly became apparent , however that the forum was unmoderated and there were many technical issues. The software on the forum was for “self moderation” ie spam or troll posts could only be removed by members flagging them as offensive.
Friday, May 13, 2011 – 08:28
Don’tBeMessin’Around:
Re: Forum Suggestions
Ethemer, I fully agree.
I really like this site and what has kept it brilliant are the people, the variety of topics, and the quality of posts and replies – that, for me, has reflected the spirit of Michael – which lives on in EVERY SINGLE FAN.
All the gimmicks in the world couldn’t match that – otherwise I would have left long ago – there are lots of fancy smancy websites out there!
What has really undermined the success of this forum more than anything else is the moderators’ continued abuse (accidental and intentional) of their privileges which has meant many wonderful members rarely come back anymore. The statistics speak for themselves.
Only a select few are allowed to know who the moderators are or what their powers consist of – all of them have told friends – and this creates a very elitist environment where only those people “in the know” can offer support or make suggestions to the moderators. This is clearly unfair to the forum community as a whole.
Friday, May 13, 2011 – 09:50
dj4mj:
Re: Forum Suggestions
So MANY members KNOW but are afraid to speak up for FEAR of being deleted.There is something VERY WRONG for having to feel that way! Sad I became a voice for those who gave up and I was deleted for doing so! Dear God, what is happening? Where is MICHAEL in this?
dj4mj:
Re: Forum Suggestions
Ethemer, a long-standing RESPECTED member who has a heart of gold, so much Michael-like, a member with INTEGRITY and LOVE for” ALL” of Michael’s Fans, took it upon herself to NOT turn her back on those who had no voice, but to be the voice for them was silenced OVER and OVER, time and time again. Ethemer was the FIRST to take this stand for the silenced.She paid a price for doing so. DELETED into LEAVING because she could no longer watch GOOD people being silenced. It breaks my heart …STOP for the LOVE of MICHAEL.
gboete1:
Re: Forum Suggestions
CGM Digital.
I want to thank Sony for the possibility to have this site where we can all come to gather and talk about the one person that brought us all together, Mr. Michael Jackson.
As there are indeed things that could be improved (what can not be improved in this world …) I am very satisfied in general, and thinking about : “be thankful for what one has”, I would not not want to have many changements, that could lead to other unexpected problems.
However, I want to express my solidarity with some longtime loyal members, who took a stand against the “silenced”. My friends and me are among these “silenced”. It was very hard to have our threads deleted one after another, also threads that had been there for such a long time, for no specific reason. To have an account deleted, is very hurtful, because you lose all your pm’s, all your friends, your total “History” (that we write every day….).
Is there any possibility to be able to recuperate what was on a member’s profile, after the account was deleted ?
You will not be surprised that I fully agree with some members that suggest the moderating system should be adapted.
I personally have intensively felt the censorship on this site, and I had to be so careful to chose words and sentence constructions, and read them over and over again, because something could have been misinterpreded by the mods, (English not being my mother language makes it no easier) leading to deletion of the post/thread and account. That is not what Michael was and is all about. This should be a place where we can talk freely, enjoy, and not be afraid for every word we write.
I very much would like to thank some long time respectable members that have helped us to survive, among them Ethemer and dj4mj, and they did pay for it. It breaks my heart. Why do they have to go through this ?
I hope everybody that loves Mr. Jackson can be allowed on this site, that hearts can be together again. This would be, in my opinion, the best improvement of this forum……
Thank you.
Friday, May 13, 2011 – 12:09
Madea:
Re: Forum Suggestions
All of these Forum Suggestions are excellent and I would personally love to see them in place here to insure that this forum is indeed a safe, welcoming place for EVERYONE. I especially commend Ethemer, dj4mj, gboete 1, moon_street and any others who commented for sharing their thoughts and concerns about the situation regarding the moderators. IMHO, this is certainly a situation that requires further evaluation and necessary steps taken to insure that the current problems are corrected. Kudos to ALL who offered suggestions and spelled out their concerns so that we all can continue to enjoy being here to share with each other. With the L.O.V.E. Now, where is that “LIKE” button?!?
~Madea~
Don’tBeMessin’Around:
Re: Forum Suggestions
DJ – I fully agree – the situation has created an intimidating atmosphere for many.
The whole moderation system needs to be open and transparent not shrouded in secrecy. With responsibility must come accountability.
Im really amazed at how people new to the fan community have come to have such influence and people lap up their every word, while those who have been active for many years and have alot of experience are ignored, ridiculed and their stories and photos are made out to be lies!
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Thats me again at 4.21 and at 6.31 to 6.53 thats my reaction to the inviation into Neverland
It has come to my attention that you continuely spread FALSE information regarding certain photos of Michael with fans. Now while I have never met or had any interaction with Sam DG, I have met and travelled to see Michael with the OTHER fans who had photos taken the same day as Sam DG. I knew those fans LONG before TINI, LONG before they were called follower fans. Those photos are 100% REAL, why is it soo hard to believe that fans met with Michael on a regualr basis, for over 10 years. Just cos YOU didnt know about them, dosnt mean shit. Those fans NEVER put their stories or photos online, only those who knew them in real life heard their stories, saw their photos, they were discreet and extremely private about their times with Michael,so so much happened in real life that NEVER made it online, fans meeting Michael all over the world, you really have no clue!
THIS WAS WRITTEN BY ONE OF THE ORGANISERS OF THE UK JUSTICE DEMOS IN LONDON, AND POSTED ON FACEBOOK. IT WAS NOT WRITTEN BY BY ME, BUT I WAS ASKED TO POST IT ON MY BLOG SO THAT IT COULD BE READ BY MANY FANS
So once again, the preparation for the demos has hit another road block in the form of The British Police. We’ve been working our upmost to ensure that every move we make is legal and above board. We’re fighting a serious cause here so the last thing we want is to encounter problems on the day.
As I write this I could well be damaging my relationship with the British police, one we as a group have been working hard to restore (Note : Restoring a Relationship with the British Police). Should this be the case then I will withdraw myself from the organisation of the demos so as not to put them in jeopardy. But that will only happen should a problem arise from this.
What it’s really highlighted for me though is certain members of the American fan circuit and again I’m questioning WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!
On a constant basis news filters in from the states that these fans are arguing, setting up blogs about each other, getting a restraining order, sending hate mail, not being capable of ignoring each other and my personal disgust – Fighting outside the court house.
Let’s put this in to perspective whilst you ‘select few’ are paying airtime to all the ridiculousness that is your fall out, which has no genuine substance. Some of us are battling to even be ALLOWED to fight for Justice for Michael. Whilst you’re clearly taking for granted the fact that you’re in California and can stand outside the court house by fighting with each other, some of us are struggling to be able to find a pitch to demonstrate at! Whilst you are wasting police time with these ridiculous restraining orders. Some of us are spending hours of our time outside of our full time work having to clear every aspect of our proposed demonstration with police with no guarantee the event will be allowed to go ahead.
We are not going to just ‘do it’. We want everything to be above board. Let’s face it, there has already been enough drama without having a bunch of UK fans in trouble with the police as well.
When you are an active fan and you do something in the public eye, people will categories all the fans on the basis of how they see you. If you stand there, as a fan, Screaming and acting in an ill fashion, People will a) Not listen or care what you have to say and b) Brand ALL Michael’s fans under one umbrella.
Think about it! You are representing fans the world over and your actions are far from what the public should perceive a Michael Jackson fan to be. In fairness their opinion is insignificant but in reality if we are going to get ANY justice for Michael at all, we need to be clear, approachable, concise and willing to recruit support from anyone who is willing.
On a final note, I really don’t know what has happened with various people’s children in regards to the various in fan fighting but as I see it; you are making this an adult situation. If your children are not safe, Leave them at home, keep them away from what is going on. They may be fans and they may want to fight for Justice but because you’ve turned this in to an adult situation they are best left out of it. Think of the message of Heal The World and apply it to the fan circuit. How are we going to show the children of the future the wonders of Michael and being a fan if all they associate it with is fighting and arguments.
For the last time, I ask you…….Even beg you, to STOP AND THINK. Do not take for granted the position you are in. Some people would give their right arm to join a justice campaign but cannot due to various reasons, so the fact that you can should mean you are committed to that and that only.
And for god sake, If you can’t get on, On facebook, Twitter, blogs or in person : IGNORE EACH OTHER!!!
© Business Wire 2010
2010-04-27 19:12:10 –
The Estate of Michael Jackson today announced that United States District Court Judge Dolly M. Gee granted its request for a preliminary injunction enjoining the “Heal the
World Foundation” from further exploiting the use of Michael Jackson’s name, image and likeness and also from using any Michael Jackson-related trademarks.The injunction stems from a lawsuit filed on September 29, 2009 in
United States District Court in Los Angeles against two related entities operated by
Melissa Johnson in the California desert communities of Indio and Palm Desert that have been using the “Heal the World” name.While Michael had a
Heal the World Foundation, it had been inactive for many years prior to his death last June 25. The plaintiffs in the action are Jackson Estate Executors John Branca and John McClain, along with Triumph International Inc., a Michael Jackson company now owned by his Estate.In her written order, Judge Gee wrote that the websites of Ms. Johnson’s entities “convey to consumers a false affiliation with Michael Jackson and have, in fact, misled consumers into believing that Defendants are associated with Michael Jackson or Jackson’s foundations.” She added that the decision by Ms. Johnson’s entities to use Michael Jackson-related trademarks in its websites and on products it sells “is clearly related to Michael Jackson’s commercial success.”
Judge Gee also found that Ms. Johnson’s entities violated “anti-cybersquatting” laws through its attempts to register the “mjaid.com” and “mjquotes.com” domain names, noting that using “mj” in the two domain names would likely confuse consumers into believing that the websites were associated with Michael Jackson. Judge Gee concluded that the Estate will likely succeed on the merits in trademark infringement, unfair competition and related claims. She also concluded that an injunction is in the public interest, and that the Estate would otherwise lose substantial revenue and goodwill.
“Michael had no ties to this
Heal the World Foundation,” said Vincent Chieffo, attorney with Greenberg Traurig LLP, representing the plaintiffs. “We believe the court made the correct decision to protect Michael’s fans from being misled into believing they are contributing to either an official Michael Jackson charity or one of his causes.”For the Estate of Michael JacksonSitrick and CompanyJim
It has come to my attention that fans new to the fan community since June 2009 are either misinformed or not aware of the facts about HEAL THE WORLD FOUNDATION.ORG, run by Melissa Johnson.
One thing I truely believe in , is what dosnt break you makes you stronger. Theses past few months have been testing times. Ive become more involved with the UK Justice demo group and though my involvement the group in general became the target of harressement.
no matter what you do, I’m still gonna be here
Through all your lies and silly games
I’m a still remain the same,I’m unbreakable