Open Letter To American Fans

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Dear all who can go to the court in LA


There is a huge divide in the fan community, those on facebook and twitter, and those on the forums and the two are not interacting. That needs to stop.

We dont care about who did what to whom, all we care about is Michael and we need fans to write reports and POST ON FORUMS


All this facebook and twitter drama conflict needs to stop. The worldwide fan community need the fans like you who go to court to write proper reports of what happens there. We need fans who go into the court to take notes and post on FORUMS. This may be the first time you have been part of the fan community for something like this, but we have been there and done that in Santa Maria. You can go there , you can see and hear what happens but WE CANT.

You have no idea what its like to be stuck on the other side of the world, with an 8 hour and more time difference, and having to rely on the media to tell you whats going on. In 2004 2005 fans like you who can be there understood this and EVERYDAY as soon as court finished they would come online and write reports for us.

The prelim hasnt even happened yet, and the fan community is falling apart. This needs to stop. The world is watching you. Just like back in Santa Maria, the fans who can be at the court are representing the WORLD WIDE FAN COMMUNITY. It is a privilage and honour to be able to be there, yet you dont seem to care. You just get into your car and drive an hour or so, while for thousands around the world, it will never be possible to go there.

We need you to be our eyes and ears. We need you to give us reports of what ACTUALLY happened rather than the media spin. We need you to tell us what the media wont report. We need you in for the long haul.

JUST STOP AND THINK FOR ONE SECOND, THIS IS ABOUT MICHAEL NOT YOU!!

Justice For Michael UK Demonstration 23 October 2010

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Our next demo will be 23 October 1pm to 6pm and we are moving to a new location, Trafalgar Square, Outside the National Gallery, London.

This will be our fifth demo and as each one has grown and been moresuccessful than the last, we have decided to move to a larger location.

As usual, we have a facebook event page CLICK HERE or check out MJVIBE or the forum MJJSTREET
As this is an actul event, please only those who can physically be in London on October 23 click attending.

For those who can not get to London for the demo, we appriciate your support. If you would like to send a support banner feel free to contact either myself or any of the other member of the organisation team. We will be happy to provide you with help and advice.

Our main purpose at these demos is to inform the public of all the infomation we as fans know which is not being reported in the general media. We also have a petition to remove Murrays medical licence.

This is not a fan meet up or fan party. There is no singing or dancing, we dont have any music. We dont dress up in Michael costumes. We just wear Michael tshirts, and have lots of banners and flags.

Each time we do this, we are getting more and more support from both fans and the general public. Fans this is important, this is our chance to show that we still support Michael no matter what.

WILL YOU BE THERE???

Please note that we are in no way affilated with ‘JUSTICE4MJ’ , the facebook group, website or t-shirt sales. We agree that Justice is need for Michael and we will do everything we can, however we have different ideals and attitudes towards obtaining Justice and its practises all of which conflict with ‘Justice4mj’.

And The Beat Goes On

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Posted on August 24, 2010 by admin@mjjstreet.com
So folks, as a follow on from my last blog, things have got quite interesting the other side of the pond.

A fan project was started to write messages to Michael on stones and leave them at Neverland. Now the original idea was to bring a stone to Neverland, which a certain fan group then decided to start getting fans to donate money for the stones, to be sent to their paypal account. Yep, thats right, yet ANOTHER money making scheme, how much money will disappear into peoples pockets from THAT one???

And then there was yet ANOTHER story in TMZ, quoting a rep from a fan group!! Like what the hell, since when are fan activities the business of a GOSSIP website??? and Im sure TMZ thank that particular rep from a fan group for the exclusive, like they thank all their other sources……

ooh and now we get to the really interesting stuff.

Yesterday, 23 Aug was yet another pretrial hearing. The day started well, with a particularly fun exchange on TWITTER

@Qbees you wont get reliable info from so called justice leaders or their notes from court!!Mon Aug 23 2010 14:27:41 (GMT Daylight Time)
@Qbees that will happen, but it wont be from AMERICAN so called Justice leaders, other fans are there too & will get info out
@justice_4mj it is NOT a prelim, it is just another PRETRIAL at which the date for the prelim will be set!!
@MJFSC_ it is NOT a prelim, it is just another PRETRIAL at which the date for the prelim will be set!
Qbees
@justice_4mj Hey Today is NOT prelim hearing _ didnt U take notes at last hearing to inform fans that today is to schedule prelim hearing ?
@justice_4mj @MJFSC_ when you go to court can you take notes & post on fan sites &forums or is that too much to ask!!
@justice_4mj @MJFSC_ when you go to court can you take notes & post on fan sites &forums or is that too much to ask!!Mon Aug 23 2010 15:11:05 (GMT Daylight Time)
justice_4mj

@dmoonstreet depends if a justice4mj member gets a public seat. If not we are sitting outside the doors..locked out.3:15 PM Aug 23rd
@justice_4mj @MJFSC_ I forgot you were not active fans in 04/05 back then fans took notes in court & posted on forums,guess you dont careMon Aug 23 2010 15:13:13 (GMT Daylight Time)
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@dmoonstreet stalking Michael doesn’t qualify someone from being a fan for life, maybe one day you will get it.3:16 PM Aug 23rd
@justice_4mj call me any name you wish, but it will never make a differenceMon Aug 23 2010 15:25:20 (GMT Daylight Time)
@justice_4mj I was there & you were not, & nothing you can do NOW will ever change that!Mon Aug 23 2010 15:25:38 (GMT Daylight Time)
justice_4mj

@dmoonstreet, Well, were here now, planes fly from Ireland..many are here from around the world. Where are you? You weren’t in SM either huhMon Aug 23 2010 15:31:18 (GMT Daylight Time)
@justice_4mj actually I was at a Justice demo in LA, in June, & also on sat in London, & have done alot more that you think!Mon Aug 23 2010 15:34:01 (GMT Daylight Time)
@justice_4mj ooh this is fun, keep going attacking experienced fans & watch the numbers unfollowing you!!Mon Aug 23 2010 15:37:26 (GMT Daylight Time)
justice_4mj

@dmoonstreet Well the courhouse is open to the public, so feel free to come when it counts. Have a great day. Were going to support.Mon Aug 23 2010 15:37:46 (GMT Daylight Time)
After that interesting conversation I had fans contact me saying they couldnt belive what was being said and that were unfollowing justice_4mj and MJFSC_!!!
Then a few hours later it all kicks off at the court. Now as I wasnt there, all I know is that things were flying back and forth on TWITTER and FACEBOOK, with TOMJFSC reporting certain fans to the Police!!! Um excuse me people, am I dim or what, I thought we were all there to fight for Michael, not take the fan wars to the streets and in public, right in front of the world media!!!
Now today, this has appeared on facebook

The Official Michael Jackson Fans of Southern California

Justice4MJ went to support Michael and the Jackson family yesterday. It was a disaster. With a bunch of HATE from a certain “doom and gloom” group (SD/LP/TM) who dont care anything about Michael. They just seek attention and caused DRAMA ALL DAY..Court was a waste of time as usual. So sad that its taking this long for justice to be served. Next court date is Oct. 26th.

The Official Michael Jackson Fans of Southern California

Due to what has been happening in the fan community, AMY, Karlene and I have decided this will be the last post on this page. In light of what is happened with Taaj , and the drama she is causing, we no longer feel the fans are benefiting from the work we do. I am sorry this is happening,she is causing division among  fans and doing it in Michael’s name. We will not be part of this.

The Official Michael Jackson Fans of Southern California 

Taaj, you may think you have won, but this was  never about you. It was about Michael Jackson, a person I have loved my whole life. You will now ruin this community with your hate, lies and black heart. I will pray for you, in spite of what you have done. The fans will see, you have attacked his grieving family, you have attacked his fans. These are smart people manipulated by your hate. Soon they will see

 

So thats its, the so called leaders of the JUSTICE CAMPAIGN, the ones who have been the most vocal, GONE before even the prelim hearing!! They came, they made the money and they left…. Nevermind all the fans around the world who looked to them for guidance  who thought that they really cared about Michael… oops oh well, tough!!
As the dust settles from all this, the fans who really do care about Michael will continue the fight for Justice. Hopefully now the fans will realize what has been going on and that not everyone is doing this for the same reason. Just like we didn’t give up in Santa Maria, we wont give up now. As the months roll by and the weather gets colder, we will be there, in layers with hot drinks, in the rain, in the snow, whatever it takes. The real true fans don’t care about media attention, about public recognition, about making money. All we care about is Michael.

And The Beat Goes On

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so here were are again folks, Murray back in court. Today is just ANOTHER PRETRIAL hearing, where the judge will be presented with evidence and will decide on whether there is enough to proceed with a trial. Its all just formalities and court procedures, we all know there is enough evidence, but we have still have to follow the correct formalities.

On Saturday, there was another JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL demo in London, which I was at and also in France.
We were all wearing the same tshirts, we had banners and placards, and were talking to the general public, handing out leaflets and getting them to sign the petition. We didnt have music, there was no one in MJ costumes, it wasnt a fan meet up as such, there was no singing or dancing. We were there informing the public of the facts about the case not being reported in the general media. In France they were doing the same thing.
After being at the demo on saturday, it really brought home to me the difference between the European fans and the American fans.
The American fans seem to be all about money and public recognition. The latest stunt is getting fans to donate to send stones to Neverland, and as usual, TMZ know all about what fans are doing at the court!!
How is it that fans in Europe can organise demos in their local cities, getting fans out

American Justice groups dont know shit

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American Justice groups dont know shit, you ALL only became active in fan community since June 09, & ALL of you have caused nothing onflict & drama & divided fan community, ALL of you out for personal gain & pushing out establibsed fan community. American Justice groups YOU are newbies in OUR world, yet you contiunely destroy all that has been created over many years, YOU bring shame to the fan community. American Justice groups get over it, its not about YOU , its about standing together as one, fighting for Michael, not who is the most recognised, has the most followers or gets closest to the Jackson family!!where are the ethics and morals?? Before June 09 the fan community didnt care about publicity, didnt care about public recognition and acceptance, all that matter was doing things for Michael!


And you think that Im the only one who thinks like this??

From facebook

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What a fuckin Joke!!!! – You sit there preaching about Fans attacking other fans when its SOMETHING YOU DO!!! YOU ARE A PART OF THAT!!! AND THATS WHY PEOPLE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU SIT THERE WHITER THAN WHITE, HOLIER THAN THOU AND ITS SOMETHING YOU DO – SO IN YOUR OWN WORDS “YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF”

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I AM SO FUCKED OFF RIGHT NOW FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE FAN COMMUNITY AND HAD TO DEAL WITH THE SHIT THAT CAME WITH BEING A MICHAEL FAN WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO JUDGE THOSE OF YOU WHO COULDN’T BE FUCKED WITH MICHAEL AND THE PEOPLE THIS IS GEARED AT ARE A BUNCH OF AMERICAN SO CALLED FANS WHO TAKE MONEY FROM FANS….
CAUSE ALL KINDS OF FANS COMPLICATIONS AND MINI WARS AND THEN HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS IS HOW FANS SHOULD BE AND BLAH BLAH BLAH I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHO’S IDEA IT WAS TO WRITE ON THE WALLS OF NEVERLAND AND FOREST LAWN AND TELL ANYONE THAT THEY DON’T HAVE A RIGHT TO GRIEVE FOR MICHAEL
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE!!?!?!!?!? YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE GET IT TOGETHER BEFORE YOU TRY AND BECOME SPOKES PEOPLE FOR FANS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!!


Bitch, you do not speak for me, you do not represent the fan community, you DONT KNOW SHIT, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF!!! YOU ARE HERE FOR JUSTICE, IE MAKING IT POLITICAL, ABOUT YOU AND ABOUT SHOWING THE WORLD JUST HOW BIG A FAN YOU ARE, oooh wait a minute, Im here for Michael, all Ive ever done is for Michael, to make him smile , to give him support. I dont care about being on tv, about going to the media, about political views, about getting public recognition for being a Michael Jackson fan. I care about Michael pure and simple


Survival of the fittest

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Sometimes I wonder why I continue to be an active fan. Is all the drama and conflict worth it… When my experience and knowledge gets misunderstood… when people feel threated by my pro activeness… when bitterness and guilt turn to jealousy…… when rumours and lies are spread about me… when I am made to feel unwelcome and not wanted…..


Im opionated and scarcastic and have a dark humour…. I speak my mind and dont take crap from anyone… I have strong views and Im not afraid to ruffle feathers and say things which others dont want to say or hear……

All I know is that I have been active in the fan community since 1998 and in those years have seen many fans come and go. Like the real world, the fan community is survival of the fittest. The strong will survive and carry on, while the weak stumble and fade away. Like the real world, the new must learn and respect those who are experienced and knowledgable. New to the fan community does not mean new fan and those who are becoming active for the first time need to respect long term members, even if those long term members are many years younger than the new members.

The constant conflict is dragging down the fan community, and much of it seems to be centered around those who have become active in the last year.

I will not give up on Michael, I never have but I am shutting down. Im tired of being hurt,of rumours spread about me. I refuse to be pushed out of something which is my life but I dont want any more conflict or drama. From now on, I will be more selective with who I become friends with, which fan events and projects I become involved in. I have been hurt too much to just want to know all fans and be involved with all projects.

Why Do I Continue

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why do I continue being involved in the fan community, why do I support projects and offer advice only for it to be thrown back in my face. A project which I cared deeply about and affected me personally has now come crashing down, and I get the feeling that Im being accused of wanting to take over and become the “leader” when all I did was offer advice and suggestions.Is it any wonder I find it hard to trust people, that I dont get involved in many fan projects and events, because when I do I just get hurt….

About TINI fan group and who they are

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originally posted on the forum at michaeljackson.com on Sunday 4 October 2009, a few weeks before the film THIS IS IS was released

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I am not one of the fans behind THIS IS NOT IT fan group. I just support them and want people to know about their campaign.

Over the years I have met many of them, and I know that all they did and continue to do was for Michael.

These are the fans who were the link between Michael and the wider fan community.

These are the fans who Michael trusted to pass on messages from him to the wider fan community.

These are the fans who first brought us the exciting news of THE REURN OF THE CURLS.

These are the fans who brought us news of Michaels visits to Europe.

These are the fans who were instrumental in SONY WARS, organising the demos in London and New York which Michael attended on an open top bus.

These are the fans who helped organised THE ROSES OF LOVE project during March /April 2005

These are the last fans Michael had contact with


I care about what these fans are saying.Their campaign is about sharing information from people who talked to Michael every day, who saw the effects of the pressure he was under, yet cos they are “just” fans, were powerless at the time to do anything.

Many people had too much invested in the concerts for Michael to pull out or postone.

Just look at the meltdown that happened when the opening night was moved from July 8 to July 13

There is also an email from these fans, the fans behind THIS IS NOT IT, which was sent 4 days before June 25, detailing how worried they were about Michael. It was first posted on other forums but removed cos many fans could not or would not see why they were worried.

I know its hard to accept, and that not everyone can understand why they are doing it and are able to to believe what they write. We are all grieving and for many of you , who only knew Michael as the superstar entertainer, I know its hard to accept that the fantasy Michael Jackson, the man onstage in front of thousands was very different to the reality. I know this campaign wont bring back what we have lost but in a way its a way of dealing with the grief, the helplessness, the why didnt I’s. Its focussing the grief and pain and using it for a purpose. We the fans have always believed in Michael, we were there in 93, we were there in 2002, we were there in 2004/2005. The only difference in this campaign is that Michael is not here. We were the ones who along with his family, gave him a purpose to keep fighting in Santa Marie.

My Thoughts On New MJ Album

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so Will.I.am has made his thoughts public about the planned new album


Michael Jackson friend and collaborator will.i.am doesn’t support new album

By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY
AP Music Writer

NEW YORK (AP) — A new Michael Jackson album is expected by the end of the year, culled from unreleased material in his vaults. But Jackson collaborator and Black Eyed Peas frontman will.i.am is vehemently opposed to the idea.

“I don’t think that should ever come out. That’s bad,” he said. “He was a perfectionist and he wouldn’t have wanted it that way. How you gonna release Michael Jackson when Michael Jackson ain’t here to bless it?”

Will.i.am collaborated with Jackson on the rerelease of “Thriller” in 2008 with remixed versions of some of the album’s classic songs. He said Jackson was very particular about all aspects of his musical productions, from his vocals to arrangements to instrumentation.

“Now that he is not part of the process, what are they doing? Why would you put a record out like that? Because he was a friend of mine, I just think that’s disrespectful,” he said. “What’s wrong with what he already contributed to the world?”

The Jackson estate did not respond to a request for comment.

When asked about the high demand for any new Jackson music, will.i.am replied: “So what? You don’t disrespect someone when they’re gone. … How much can you suck from his energy? … Freaking parasites!”

Not much is known about what will be on the album, but Michael’s brother Jackie has said he and brother Marlon were working on the record with John McClain, Jackson’s former manager and executor of his estate


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Personally I agree with him and even before this article I had made the descision not to buy any new releases. I dont plan on buying any albums etc that may be released now or in the future. This has nothing to do with any of the SONY boycotts that are floating around but cos of my own reasons. It kinda feels for me, that all of that ended on June 25 2009. If Michael hasnt personally approved and worked on all aspects of something then Im not interested. I dont want someones opinion of how Michael MIGHT have finished a song, or songs that Michael MIGHT have included on a new album. Nothing released from now on, will have the same sound, or look, or cohesion or polish that Michael gave his work, the little finishing touches that only he could think of. No one can recreate what he did. Im not interested in imatations or things done in the style of Michael, or things influenced by Michael or tributes to Michael.